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#81 crk

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Postat 16 April 2012 - 16:51:05

Am vazut-o acum, ieri nu era :)
Asa cum am spus, pretul il face piata. Daca da peste un impatimit care cauta demult asa ceva poate sa-si ia banii. Cu toate ca echiparea nu mai e cea de la 1972, ceea ce dupa parerea mea, ii scade valoarea. Jante Remerx la Colnago Mexico mie nu-mi suna bine. Dar asta e doar parerea mea.
Cadrul este insa o bijuterie, daca-mi permiteti.
Am un link de la Emil, delectati-va : http://www.velociao....-mexico-1976-2/
Spor la vanzare !
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#82 buchter emil

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Postat 18 April 2012 - 07:46:41

Am vazut si eu pupaza ,pe e-bay merita 1000 euro dar la noi in ROMANIA este alt pret.Este modelul care are tevi ori columbus pl sau sl si cadrul gol 1848 gr ce pentru un cadrul de 30 de ani este grozav.Pentru colectionari este o pasare rara ,pentru cei care fac performanta este depasit .Pentru plimbareti cam scump dar este o bijuterie si avand in vedere ca are vopsea originala este fain.Dupa umila mea parere este una din cele mai reusite colnago ,mexico 72 si mai este una super mexico ani 85 cu tevi SL.
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#83 buchter emil

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Postat 18 April 2012 - 12:22:50

Da asa este un lucru de mentionat dupa cum a zis si prietenul CRK echiparea lasa de dorit si ca sa faci rost de hainele care i se potrivesc este dificil si foarte scump
BAFTA la vanzare
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#84 buchter emil

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Postat 18 April 2012 - 14:07:11

Intre timp pupaza a urcat la 33 mil .dar ce este interesant este faptul ca noi in ROMANIA suntem departe a a avea cunostinte temeinice cum sunt cei din strainatate care si pe e-bay stiu al dracului de bine valoarea si perioada marcilor consacrate
In cazul nostru la fel este foarte greu sa sti din ce perioada ce valoare ce tuburi au folosit. Ce stiam eu la colnago super care au fost in ani 70 erau facute din tevi columbus SL care cantareau in jur de 1940 gr.A venit MEXICO care culmea in cinstea lui EDDY MERCKX au fost facute din reynolds si PL de batranul COLNAGO si doar cu un singur pinion parca de 13 fara schimbatoare ,manete si cu lant gaurit si ghidon gaurit au reusit sa o scoata la 5700 bicicleta .Cele de serie au fost facute prima serie din COLUMBUS PL[1848 gr] si sunt si cele mai cautate si insusi cea a PAPEI CARE ERA SI AURITA apoi a urmat mexico dar cu tevi SL care nu mai este tot aceasi mancare de peste.A urmat si seria super mexico [SARAONI] cele cu fond alb si scrise cu negru si in special pe rosu culoarea de fond .Sunt cel putin pentru mine lucruri interesante ,iar pentru colectionari extrem de importante .Identificarea din pacate pentru multi este extrem de dificila deoarece pe decal apare ...columbus si tubi speciale.Stikerul principal cu dungile colorate si unde scrie doar mexico 1972 iarasi nu este suficient sa sti ce tevi ce perioada si ani
Pe net la site straine si acolo nu gasesti explicati clare ,in orice caz probabil batranul COLNAGO in varsta de peste 80 de ani sigur te poate lamuri.Personal cred ca in cazul nostru este vorba de tevi SL ,deoarece cele PL sunt extrem de rare si putin probabil sa fie si in cazul nostru.Daca cineva poate da lamuriri mai ample legat de frumoasa istorie a mexicanului ar fi superb
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#85 dang123

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Postat 22 April 2012 - 22:22:48

Stie cineva daca putem afla despre mai multe cadru(an facbricatie, etc.) folosind seria sa?
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Postat 23 April 2012 - 17:38:49

Vreau sa cumpar de la cineva din Germania cadrul din pozele atasate, dar nu-mi dau seama ce grupset foloseste si cam care ar fi anul de fabricatie. Ajutor :)

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#87 sorin7sorin

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Postat 23 April 2012 - 17:51:29

Nu pare Colnago! Furca sigur nu este si nici pe cadru nu se vad treflele si alte chestii pantografate.

Doar stickere Colnago!
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#88 raducanmihai

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Postat 23 April 2012 - 18:35:03

Pe furca e pantografat un "K" care nu stiu de la ce vine. Ar trebui sa faca o poza butucului pedalier (pe dedesubt) ,unde ar trebui sa fie trifoiul decupat ,adica asa ceva (da mai jos,pozele cu BB verde) : http://forums.roadbi...elp-174589.html
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Postat 23 April 2012 - 18:49:38

Pai, "K" vine de la Kolnago! Ca doar nu de la Fake!
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Postat 23 April 2012 - 19:11:26

Inteleg ca acum glumesti, precedentul comentariu mi s-a parut mai bun. Hehehehheh !
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Postat 27 April 2012 - 13:02:37

Nu pare Colnago! Furca sigur nu este si nici pe cadru nu se vad treflele si alte chestii pantografate.

Doar stickere Colnago!


De acord cu tine,Sorine!
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#92 dang123

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Postat 09 May 2012 - 15:24:02

Off topic: salut inca odata pe domnul cu Colnago rosu din zona veche, pierdut printe culoriile basce.
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Postat 04 January 2013 - 10:37:47

Am primit si eu un Colnago C40 HP.

 

http://imageshack.us...mondhighpo.jpg/

 

Acu, m-am uitat peste tot pe cadru dupa seria cadrului ca sa il identific insa nu am gasit nimic. Stie cineva pe unde ar trebui sa apara seria respectiva, sau e posibil sa fi fost pusa pe un sticker care poate intre timp s-o fi dezlipit?


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#94 pinkbike

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Postat 04 January 2013 - 15:40:55

Vezi pe montura pt schimbatorul de foi
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Postat 06 January 2013 - 15:58:00

prin iulie am sa intru si eu in exclusivistul club al posesorilor de Colnago cu echipare campa super record 2013


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Postat 13 January 2013 - 11:01:41

ia sa vad daca functioneaza,

asta e colnago-ul meu

 

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echipat dura-ace 7800

sa fizik arione vs

roti ksyrium elite

pedale shimano spd&platforma

noroi autentic de bucuresti

 

p.s. nu stiu de ce nu pot uploada sa se vada imaginile direct in post, imi da urmatorul mesaj cand bag linku la picture:

You are not allowed to use that image extension on this community.

???


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Postat 13 January 2013 - 11:21:22

ah, am uitat

cadrul este Colnago C40 HP marime 52

furca Colnago Super Carbon

tija de sa Colnago carbon

ghidonu Deda Alanera integrat carbon

ghidolina Deda, alba la origine


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Postat 13 January 2013 - 16:37:47

hai ca am reusit, dupa mai multe incercari (cu imageshack.us se pare ca nu merge)

 

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Postat 14 January 2013 - 06:45:03

Încearcă www.photobucket.com e mai bun, dar trebuie să-ți faci cont (free)!


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Postat 14 January 2013 - 16:58:23

multumesc
am gasit un clip interesat despre procesul de vopsire a cadrelor colnago
destul de interesant


Edited by MaC®, 14 January 2013 - 17:04:49.
Am editat link-ul pt. că nu mergea

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Postat 04 August 2013 - 00:03:25

Sunt in cautare de cataloage Colnago , cine are sau stie sa le gaseasca il rog sa posteze aici  :)     .Imi vor fi de ajutor in identificarea unei biciclete . Adaug cateva link-uri  cu   cataloage si biciclete Colnago  .http://www.velociao....frames/colnago/ http://www.raydobbin...ago_catalog.htm http://campybike.com...2006Colnago.pdf http://www.velociao....1986-catalogue/ http://www.raydobbin...o_catalog.htm http://www.velociao....1979-broschure/


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Postat 28 January 2014 - 14:43:18

salut tuturor

de curand am primit din Italia pe langa niste parmezan si detergenti un ....Colnago Mexico !!!!!!!!!!!!

Am aruncat detergentii si branza :) si am stat o zi admirand batranul Colnago ...de altfel vopsea si decals originale in stare foarte buna. De ceva timp am rasfoit toate cataloagele si forumurile despre acest Mexico si sunt inca euforic cand ma gandesc ca o bucatica de istorie Colnago e langa mine :) De curand am desfacut-o si urmeaza sa curat comoara. Am luat un WD40 si eram pregatit de lucru, insa a venit zapada si am trecut la lopata :) . Sper ca mai e cineva pe aici care mai e interesat de Colnago si cu care pot schimba pareri despre acest proiect.  


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Postat 28 January 2014 - 14:59:11

Poze ori nu s-a intamplat :)


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Postat 28 January 2014 - 16:35:59

Sunt in cautare de cataloage Colnago , cine are sau stie sa le gaseasca il rog sa posteze aici  :)     .Imi vor fi de ajutor in identificarea unei biciclete . Adaug cateva link-uri  cu   cataloage si biciclete Colnago  .http://www.velociao....frames/colnago/ http://www.raydobbin...ago_catalog.htm http://campybike.com...2006Colnago.pdf http://www.velociao....1986-catalogue/ http://www.raydobbin...o_catalog.htm http://www.velociao....1979-broschure/

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Postat 28 January 2014 - 17:00:13

 

Sunt in cautare de cataloage Colnago , cine are sau stie sa le gaseasca il rog sa posteze aici  :)     .Imi vor fi de ajutor in identificarea unei biciclete . Adaug cateva link-uri  cu   cataloage si biciclete Colnago  .http://www.velociao....frames/colnago/ http://www.raydobbin...ago_catalog.htm http://campybike.com...2006Colnago.pdf http://www.velociao....1986-catalogue/ http://www.raydobbin...o_catalog.htm http://www.velociao....1979-broschure/

 

uite aici alte cataloage

http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/catalogs/


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Postat 28 January 2014 - 17:16:26

Sunt in cautare de cataloage Colnago , cine are sau stie sa le gaseasca il rog sa posteze aici  :)     .Imi vor fi de ajutor in identificarea unei biciclete . Adaug cateva link-uri  cu   cataloage si biciclete Colnago  .http://www.velociao....frames/colnago/ http://www.raydobbin...ago_catalog.htm http://campybike.com...2006Colnago.pdf http://www.velociao....1986-catalogue/ http://www.raydobbin...o_catalog.htm http://www.velociao....1979-broschure/

alte cataloage colnago

http://www.velo-pages.com/main.php

(search for "Colnago")


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Postat 29 January 2014 - 10:11:37

Poze ori nu s-a intamplat :)

nu stiu cum au reusit unii sa puna poze mari sau video pt ca imi arata ca pot incarca maxim 13,4 k. Nici daca le am transformat in gif nu reusesc sa ajung la asa ceva.


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Postat 29 January 2014 - 10:21:15

Pai le uploadezi pe picasa sau flickr dupa care vii si pui link-ul aici.


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Postat 29 January 2014 - 10:39:35

Poze ori nu s-a intamplat :)

O, da, s-a intamplat ! o sa revin cu poze cand o sa curat cadrul si componentele. Pana atunci voi reveni cu specificatii si documentare despre acest Colnago. 

http://www.flickr.co...102083995@N08/


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Postat 29 January 2014 - 13:57:47

chiar daca cadrul meu "Mexico" a fost usor de identificat, avand toate caracteristicile specifice, voi posta si o mica documentare de identificare a lui. Voi reveni cu o documentare a pieselor de pe Mexico-ul meu.

 

·     In 1972, Eddy Merckx decided to attempt the Hour Record. A special road TT bike was constructed to test the various ultra-light tubing, frame angles, etc. for the track machine. On Oct. 25, 1972, he set the new Hour Record. The bike was a special track Colnago with usual Merckx's name on the down tube but a reflectiveWindsor (Mexico) bike company's decals were placed on head and seat tubes. This caused a rift between Merckx and Colnago for the 1973 season and Merckx left Colnago for De Rosa. Due to saddle boils/injury, Merckx was mostly inactive in 1973, but he appeared in a Columbus tubing advertisement with Ugo De Rosa holding up his usual orange road machine. This caused a stir on who built the Hour Record bike at the time.

To settle the matter, Ernesto Colnago made a new model in 1974, Colnago Mexico, with a new decal that clearly stated who built the Hour Record bike on the seat tube and the chain stays. This model had the Columbus Record tubing and was available in both road and track versions. It ran from 1974 thru 1979. To commemorate the end of the limited model run, Colnago built a special Mexico road bike in 1979, the completely 24kt gold plated Colnago Mexico Oro frame set bicycle to present to Pope John Paul II (he later exchanged it for a white Colnago Arabesque Gentleman). Five replica completely 24kt gold plated Colnago Mexico Oro frame sets were also built at this time for very special customers. The stamped identification in the frame and the steering column are unlike any other serial numbers of other Mexicos or Mexico Oros.  These are the only Colnago frame sets to be considered the Colnago Mexico Oro. Due to being "lost in translation", Colnago Super, Mexico, Mexico "Mosca", Moscva Crono, with gold plated fork and stays were often referred to as Colnago Mexico Oro when these partially plated Colnagos should be referred to as Colnago Oro. Also later gold plated Colnagos were being confused with Colnago Mexico Oro, e.g. King of Spain's Colnago Oro (it has a Precisa fork). Currently there are three known 1979 Colnago Mexico Oro: one in Cambiago, one in Chicago, one in Sao Paulo. There were fake ones spotted in Germany, Australia, and France.

 

In 1980, there was a Colnago Mexico "Mosca" (aka Colnago 2000), a Team Time Trial bike created for the Team USSR. The right title would be Mosca 1980 Quartetto Olimpionico 100km con l'aerodinamica bicicletta which was labeled Colnago Mexico on the chainstays but obviously, they were entirely different from the Merckx model. It had a 650 front and 700 rear as well as 24mm seat post diameter and 17mm handlebar stem. Some of this model came with gold plated stays and fork and were sometimes also referred to as Colnago Mexico Oro confusing things even more. There is also a bike that is confused with the Colnago Mexico "Mosca", the Moscva Crono (1980 - 1982) which is easy to spot because it has seatstays that end at the middle of the seat tube and they do not end at the seat lug like the "Mosca", chainstays that are now stamped "Colnago", multi-shaped tubes, and lug within a lug in the BB. It does retain the 24mm seatpost and the 17mm handlebar stem and the uni-crown fork with brazed reverse brake bolt. Some of these also came with gold plated stays and fork and were referred to as Colnago Mexico Oro.

 

To even confuse things further, also in 1980, a new Nuovo Mexico (catalog name only, no label on the frame) model was started using the crimped tubing at top and down tubes. These new Colnago Nuovo Mexicos had nothing to do with Merckx but more to do with the beginning of experiments with crimping and tube shapes which ultimately will result in the Gilco (GILberto COlombo) tubing with Columbus and should be considered the first of their own kind. Guiseppe Sarroni should be associated with these Nuovo Mexicos since he took them to victories. The Nuovo Mexico with anti-vibrant fork is not to be confused with the Profil (1982-1983) which has a main triangle with all tubes crimped with CX fork or the Profil CX (1984-1985) which is the same as Profil but with aero shifter bosses on the top of the down tube. To confuse the matter even further, the old Mexicos were still being delivered into the1980s due to Colnago's notorious delays in filling orders on time or frame sets languishing in bike shops for years before being sold.

 

Basically the Merckx Colnago Mexicos (1974-1979) had round superlight main tubes, Sarroni Nuovo Mexicos (1980-1985) crimped top and down tubes, ESA Mexicos (1986-1988) had 6 ribs on main tubes, Zoetemelk Mexico SR/CRs (1985-1986) had a crimped top tube with a 4 rib downtube. FYO: Master with 4 ribs, Tecnos with 5 ribs, Conic with 8 ribs, and Regal (ESA Mexico w/Arabesque lugs) with 6 ribs. The visible difference between 1974-'79 Mexico and 1974-'79 Super is that the Mexico has chainstays that are not crimped at all (round-oval-round). FYO: Masi (round-D-round), De Rosa (round-diamond-round).

 

Sursa: http://velobase.com/...view.aspx?t=517

Concluzie:

·         Cadrul „ Mexico” a fost produs de Ernesto Colnago intre anii 1974 si 1979, pentru a comemora dar si pentru a-si insusi contributia majora la recordul din Mexic din 1972 a lui Merckx.

·         Cadrul „Mexico” ce selebreaza victoria din 1972 are ca particularitate fata de modelul „Super” care se producea in acelasi timp, faptul ca chainstays-ul era inca rotund (round-obal-round) si nu crimpat. In plus avea „Colnago Mexico” decals pe seattube si chainstays. Abia din 1980, cadrul prezinta crimpare, dar Colnago l-a redenumit, fiind vorba de Nuovo Mexico, asociat cu victoria lui Giussepe Sarroni.


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Postat 30 January 2014 - 20:58:54

Colnago – with Suntour Superbe Pro components.

            Pentru ca pe al meu Colnago Mexico am gasit componente Suntour din linia de top Superbe Pro (pedale Suntour Superbe Pro PL-1000 si frane fata/spate Suntour Superbe Pro CB-1000…vezi atasat Santour Superbe Pro 1979 catalog) am cautat o documentare privind cat de normala/originala este aceasta echipare cat si ce insemna Suntour Superbe Pro la acea vreme .

 

            …raspunsul l-am gasit  in spatele unor poze pe care le-am atasat, dar care necesitau o documentare coerenta pentru  a evidentia legaturile Colnago – Suntour. Numitorul comun al pozelor sunt cu siguranta:

 

·         ciclistul Jan Raas (a concurat intre anii 1974 -1985 http://www.cyclingar...?coureurid=4300, si a devenit campion mondial in 1979)

·         Istoria Belkin Pro Cycling Team

 

pozele sunt aici:     

iar concluzia la final.

 

Cariera lui Jan Raas

 

Jan Raas (born 8 November 1952) is a Dutch former professional cyclist whose 115 wins include the 1979 World Road Race Championship in Valkenburg, he also won the Tour of Flanders in 1979 and 1983, Paris–Roubaix in 1982 and Milan – San Remo in 1977. He won ten stages in the Tour de France. In six starts, Raas won the Amstel Gold Race five times

            Born in Heinkenszand, near Goes in Zeeland, Raas was the son of a farmer and one of 10 children. He showed no interest in cycling until leaving school at 16 when he acquired his first racing bike and started competing as a junior category, taking his first victory inDamme in Belgium on the 21 July 1969. Further success as an amateur, including stage wins in the Olympia Tour and the national championship, prompted Peter Post, the manager of TI-Raleigh, to offer Raas a contract for 1975.

The 22-year old had a good first seasonwith two small victories and fourth in the Tour of Belgium. The following year (1976) saw him become national champion, but at the end of that year Raas parted company with TI-Raleigh, looking for more freedom to race.[2]

In 1977 he rode for Frisol. Victories in Milan – San Remo and the Amstel Gold Race made Post rethink and Raas was back with TI-Raleigh for 1978. Raas became the influence behind the success of the team in the late seventies and early eighties. He was joint leader with Gerrie Knetemann, heading members such as Joop Zoetemelk, Ludo Peeters,Cees Priem and Henk Lubberding.

Raas’ highlights for the rest of his career included his 1979 world championship on home soil in Valkenburg, where he outsprinted German "Didi" Thurau in front of 200,000 spectators. He had four more victories in the Amstel Gold Race to give a record of five. Raas regarded the Amstel Gold as his favourite race: “The Gold Race was made for me, I had no ability as a climber, but the short and hard Limburg hills were made for me”, he said. He won Paris–Roubaix at his seventh attempt in 1982 thanks to work by his team, especially Peeters.

Raas crashed in the 1984 Milan – San Remo, injuring his back and internal organs and was never the same, although he took a stage in the 1984 Tour de France. He found the training and recovery hard and retired on 28 May 1985 after a criterium at Hansweert the preceding day.

Raas’ know-how made for a natural move into team management and he became sporting director of Kwantum team. Raas found sponsors when old ones pulled out and the team received backing from SuperConfex, Buckler, WordPerfect, Novell and finally Rabobank.„

 (sursa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Raas )

 

History of Belkin Pro Cycling Team

In road bicycle racing, teams take name from their main sponsors. The Belkin Pro Cycling Team has previously had the following sponsors, and thus names.

Kwantum Hallen-Decosol-Yoko (1984–1986)

After the season of 1983, the TI-Raleigh team split up because of tension between former world champion Jan Raas and team leaderPeter Post,[8] with seven cyclists following Post to the new Panasonic-team and six cyclists joining Raas to the Kwantum team.[9] The team captains of the Kwantum team were Guillaume Driessens, Jan Gisbers and Walter Godefroot.[10] In their first year, the team managed to win the intermediate sprints classification and one stage in the 1984 Tour de France, the Amstel Gold Race and the Dutch national road championship.[10] After the 1984 season, Jan Raas stopped as an active cyclist and became team manager. In 1985 the Kwantum team had a successful year. Victories included two Tour de France stages, the Tour of Luxembourg, Paris–Tours, Paris–Brussels, the Tirreno–Adriatico, the Tour of Belgium, again the Dutch national road championship, and the World cycling championship(Joop Zoetemelk).[11] 1986 was less successful; the most important victory was Tour of Belgium.[12]

Superconfex-Yoko (1987–1989)

For the 1987 season, the main sponsor became Superconfex. In that year, the team was officially known as Superconfex – Kwantum – Yoko – Colnago. Jan Raas remained the team leader. After a victory in Kuurne–Brussels–Kuurne for Ludo Peeters, the new sprinterJean-Paul van Poppel (coming from the Skala cycling team) gave the team a great year, with three stage wins in the Tour de France (of which two for van Poppel) and the victory in the points classification in the Tour de France for Jean-Paul van Poppel. Joop Zoetemelk ended his career with a victory in the Amstel Gold Race.[13] From 1988 on, the team was known as Superconfex – Yoko – Opel – Colnago. 1988 was also a successful season for the team, with victories in Paris–Brussels, the Tour of Ireland, the Tour of Belgium, theAmstel Gold Race, and six stages in the Tour de France.[14] In the 1989 season, Jean-Paul van Poppel changed to the Panasonic team. In 1989 his sprinting capacities were missed, and the number of victories was reduced. Still, Paris–Brussels, the Tour of Flanders and Paris–Tours were won, together with two stages in the 1989 Tour de France.[15]

Buckler-Colnago-Decca (1990–1992)[edit]

After the 1989 season, the main sponsoring was taken over by Buckler. The Tour of Belgium was won again, and the Ronde van Nederland was won as well. That year, the team had the winner of the Dutch national road race championships again, as Peter Winnenwon the race.[16] In 1991, the team won the Amstel Gold Race, the Ronde van Nederland and Tour of Flanders. The team had taken over Steven Rooks from the Panasonic team, who immediately became the Dutch national road race champion.[17] The worst year in the team's history was 1992. Only 26 races were won in the season, compared to 64 victories in the successful 1988 season.[18] 1992 also saw a young Erik Dekker entering the team. After that season, Buckler decided to stop sponsoring.

Wordperfect-Colnago-Decca (1993–1994)

A new sponsor was found in WordPerfect. Steven Rooks left the team, Raúl Alcalá joined the team. Still, the 1993 season did not turn out a great season, with only 29 victories, the most important being Three Days of De Panne and the Tour DuPont.[19] In 1993 and 1994, Michael Boogerd and Leon van Bon started their professional career in the team, and Viatcheslav Ekimov also came. The Tour du Pont was won again, together with the Tour of Luxembourg. The year still was disappointing with only 25 victories.

Novell Software-Decca (1995)

In 1995, the team was joined by Djamolidine Abdoujaparov, the winner of the points classification in the 1994 Tour de France. Abdoujaparov won one stage in the Tour de France, but other than that, the year was still not what the sponsors had hoped, so a new sponsor had to be found. The title sponsor of the previous two years, WordPerfect, was a product of Novell Software, which carried the team's name this one season.

Rabobank (1996–2012)

Raas became the team manager of the Rabobank team while Theo de Rooy, Adrie van Houwelingen and Zoetemelk were directeur sportifs.[20] As a Dutch cycling team, the team has signed many of the prominent Dutch cyclists of the 1990s including Adrie van der Poel, Richard Groenendaal and Erik Breukink as well as keeping the prominent Dutch cyclists from the Novell team that included Leon van Bon, Erik Dekker and Michael Boogerd. In addition the team had many successful cyclists in Edwig van Hooydonck, Rolf Sørensen, Johan Bruyneel and the neo-pro for the 1996 season Australian Robbie McEwen.[20]

The Rabobank team has dominated the Dutch National championships over several disciplines in cycling for example Elite and Under 23 time trial championships, Elite and Under 23 Road Race, Elite and Under 23 Cyclo-cross disciplines as well as Mountain Bike championships. The team also has had the World Champion in several categories for example Cyclo-cross; in 1996 Adrie van der Poel, in 2000 Richard Groenendaal and in 2004 Sven Nys. Óscar Freire became UCI Road World Champion in 2004. Sven Nys, Thijs Verhagen and Lars Boom were Under 23 Cyclo-cross World Champions in 1997, 2002 and 2007 respectively while Boom became Under 23 World Time trial champion in 2007.

In the 2000 Cyclo-cross World championships there was a conflict between the commercial team interests and the national team interests. Groenendaal attacked during the first lap and was chased by defending cyclo-cross world champion Mario De Clercq who was followed by Groenendaal's Rabobank teammate Sven Nys. Team manager Jan Raas allegedly told Nys not to cooperate in the chase of his commercial teammate and as a result De Clercq never caught Groenendaal enabling Groenendaal to become World Champion. As a result, Nys received much criticism from the Belgian team manager Erik De Vlaeminck as well as the Belgian public.[21]

Jan Raas was the team manager for the first eight years of the teams existence. In 2003 Raas was removed rather abruptly which surprised the other members of staff including Theo De Rooy as well as riders Erik Dekker and Michael Boogerd.[22] De Rooy was promoted to team manager and a former Rabobank rider who had been at that time working as a PR man for Rabobank, Erik Breukink, was named as the new directeur sportif to replace De Rooy. In August 2007 in the aftermath of the affair in which Michael Rasmussen was removed during the 2007 Tour de France, De Rooy resigned from his position as team manager.[23]

Following the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) report on doping in professional cycling in October 2012, Rabobank announced it would end its sponsorship of professional cycling on 31 December 2012. In a statement, Rabobank said that doping was so rampant that it was "no longer convinced the international professional world of cycling can make this a clean and fair sport."[24]

Blanco then Belkin (2013–)

The team was able to continue as Rabobank agreed to fund the team during 2013 until a new sponsor could be found, with the end of the 2013 UCI World Tour are deadline for finding a sponsor. [25] Racing under the name Blanco to refer to its formally unsponsored status, Tom-Jelte Slagter of the team won its first stage race, the 2013 Tour Down Under.

 

CONCLUZIE:

Jan Raas a facut parte din echipa TI Raleigh din anul 1975 cand i s-a oferit primul contract. In anul 1979, la Valkenburg,  a devenit campion mondial pentru aceasta echipa. Dupa sezonul din 1983, team-ul Raleigh s-a rupt datorita divergentelor dintre campionul Jan Raas si leaderul echipei Peter Post. Din acel moment, Jan Raas, alaturi de alti 6 ciclisti din fosta echipa Raleigh s-au alaturat echipei Kwantum, echipa care concura pe cursiere Colnago. Echipa Kwantum este radacina echipei Belkin din zilele noastre, ea purtand diferite denumiri de-a lungul timpului in functie de numele sponsorilor. In anul 1984 Jan Raas a suferit un accident in cursa de la Milano-San Remo, iar in mai 1985 s-a retras din activitatea competitionala, preluand insa din acest moment functia de team manager la Kwantum. Intre anii 1987-1989 echipa s-a numit apoi oficial Superconfex – Kwantum – Yoko – Colnago, Jan Raas ramanand in continuare teal leader. Intre anii 1990-1992 odata cu venirea sponsorului Buckler, echipa se numeste Buckler-Colnago-Decca, iar in aceasta perioada Suntour echipeaza cursierele Colnago ale Buckler team cu componentele de top din seria Suntour Superbe Pro. Chiar daca exista relatari ca Jan Raas ar fi folosit Suntour pe Colnago-ul sau inca de cand mai concura pentru Kuantum, perioada Buckler-Colnago (1990-1992) este cea care oficializeaza echiparea cursierelor cu linia Santour Superbe Pro, relatia fiind clar expusa in materialele foto atasate. Cat despre calitatea de top  a acestei linii inovatoare, care concura de la egal la egal cu Shimano si Campagnolo (avand insa preturi mai mici) sunt elocvente cataloagele precum si expunerea detaliata despre Suntour a lui Shaldon Brown http://sheldonbrown.com/suntour.html .

Asadar, raspunsul la intrebarea mea a fost dat.  Colnago si Santour Superbe Pro sunt cu siguranta din aceiasi poveste, iar  campionul Jan Raas si istoria Belkin team ne confirma acest lucru.


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Postat 31 January 2014 - 15:49:22

Am si eu un colnago master buckler dar nu am gasit nicaieri ce tevi a folosit .Stiu ca era columbus dar slx sau sl .Are tevile rombice la down tube si tras la top tube .Apoi legat de colnago mexico cum ne dam seama care sunt cu tevi columbus PL si care cu columbus SL .Probabil primele seri au fost cu PL dar in general sa gasit cu SL Cele Saronni sunt numai cu tevi SL .Dupa decals nu cred ca se poate constata poate zic eu dupa seri .Am incercat pe vremuri sa clarific treaba asta si am intrebat experti si colectionari dar niciodata nu am gasit rezolvarea .Colnago mexico pe care tu il ai merita sa afli ce tevi sunt pentruca tevile PL sunt straight gauge si erau tevi in grosime de 0,6 mm si cantarea aproximativ cadrul gol cam 1885 gr ,pe cand SL sunt tevi double bubutted cu tevi 0,6/0,9 si o greutate de 1930 gr probabil masura 54 .

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Postat 02 February 2014 - 10:46:51

...let me introduce you the beast and the beauty Colnago Mexico 

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Postat 02 February 2014 - 15:41:16

Da frumoasa piesa si cu orificiul specific la mexico trifoiul la bb .Nu merge de loc insa manetele alea ,trebuie neaparat ceva campa .In rest o bijuterie intradevar .Ei spun ca ,Colnago super ani 70 .Mexico ani 70pana in ani 80 si ceva cu cele pe rosu Sarroni ar fi cele mai grozave .Ar fi si Arabesque foarte fain si multe multe ce a facut batranul Colnago .Dar eu desi am doua colnago vintage prefer cele de dupa ani 90 cu celebrele furci drepte [precisa ] si master x light .Dar pana la urma daca ai un Colnago este intradevar o bijuterie .

Sa ai bafta si bucuri cu aceasta bicicleta 


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Postat 03 February 2014 - 09:34:46

Da frumoasa piesa si cu orificiul specific la mexico trifoiul la bb .Nu merge de loc insa manetele alea ,trebuie neaparat ceva campa .In rest o bijuterie intradevar .Ei spun ca ,Colnago super ani 70 .Mexico ani 70pana in ani 80 si ceva cu cele pe rosu Sarroni ar fi cele mai grozave .Ar fi si Arabesque foarte fain si multe multe ce a facut batranul Colnago .Dar eu desi am doua colnago vintage prefer cele de dupa ani 90 cu celebrele furci drepte [precisa ] si master x light .Dar pana la urma daca ai un Colnago este intradevar o bijuterie .

Sa ai bafta si bucuri cu aceasta bicicleta 

e corect. manetele de frana sunt singurele care nu au ce cauta acolo. o sa caut Campagnolo nuovo record sau daca as gasi si de preferat Santour Superbe Pro care echipau pe atunci Colnago. Intre timp am comandat cabluri campagnolo, teca teflonata, camere, cauciucuri, grip pt handelbar. Apoi urmeaza decizia cea mai grea: vanzarea pe ebay sau transformarea unui perete dintr-o camea intr un sanctuar Colnago cu bicla si tablouri cu istoria Colnago :) cele bune


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Postat 06 February 2014 - 18:24:55

Prima varianta ar fi una trista ,pacat ca un Colnago in zilele astea usor usor o sa fie o raritate .Dar si a doua varianta ca o bicicleta sa stea tablou nu este una stralucita .Acuma fiecare ce doreste de la o bicicleta ,eu sunt adeptul de a merge cu bicicleta cate zile oi avea .Apoi nu vreau sa te descurajez dar pe e-bay la straini este mult mai dificil deoarece ei sunt foarte buni cunoscatori si au pretenti pe masura .La mexico sunt multe modele cele mai cautate sunt primele seri cu columbus PL ,apoi Saraonni dar cele cu teava ondulata ,apoi modelele ESP si multe alte amanunte  printre care si piesele etc .Apoi nu mai este cazul sa spun ca pe e-bay romani nu au un renume bun si este dificil sa vinzi .Dar pana la urma daca nu esti un biciclist convins care sa o foloseasca la maximum mai bine cu pupaza la vanzare sa se bucure unul care sa o foloseasca pe masura .Nu am agreat niciodata pe cei care le folosesc ca tablouri prin casa ,pana la urma bicicleta nu este timbru .Am un prieten care facea treaba asta si nu avea treaba cu mersul cu bicicleta decat foarte rar .Pana la urma ia trecut si finalu este ca a pierdut mult la investitia uriasa care a facuto in multi ani .

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